The Electronic Girls' School Community

Photo of Helen AvelingThe beginning

Helen Aveling: Where shall I start? At the beginning, but where is it? Five years ago? Eight years ago? No, in many ways it is ten years ago. When Ju was doing her research for her PhD and first screened "The Chalet School Revisited", she talked about 'hypertexts' and all sorts of other things and most of us didn't know what she was talking about! Why? The answer is that the web, as we know it now, didn't exist. It didn't come into its current form till '95-'96 or thereabouts. Ten years ago there wasn't such a thing as the "Electronic Girls' School Story Community". It didn't exist. Ju's research and website was a prime mover in the early years of the "electronic community".

From my perspective, ten years ago I had just finished my Chalet School hardback collection, but I was a lone collector. I was a subscriber to Folly magazine, but with the exception of the one-and-only Folly day, I hadn't met any other collectors. At the time I was in contact with book dealers but not book collectors. When I came to the Centenary weekend in Hereford in '94, I watched people greeting old friends and making new ones and I envied them, little thinking that ten years on, I would be here talking to you.

What is the "Electronic Girls' School Story Community"?

So what is this "Electronic Girls' School Story Community"? It is both fan-based and club-based websites and communities, which quite happily co-exist side-by-side on the web. What is more interesting is that with the web came the internationality that E B-D was advocating, certainly in the earlier books. Clubs, and the more fluid online communities, can truly say that they have an international base in a way not possible before. Sites like eBay and Amazon have made it easier for collectors from outside the U.K to find Chalet School books - I'm not saying anything about prices though!

'Belonging'

As well as the fluid communities that Charlotte and Kerri are going to talk about in a few minutes, there's the sense of 'belonging' that, for me at least, didn't exist before the Internet was such a part of my everyday life. The essence of the Electronic Community is just this: the awareness and ability to contact others who won't think you are mad to still be reading and collecting girls' school stories. Even if you live in the back of beyond, you can still be a part of this Electronic Community if you have access to the Internet. You can enjoy club websites or the various online communities, and be reassured that you are not the oddity you may have felt before you discovered this network of people - all thanks to the Internet.

NCC website

Moving on to the New Chalet Club and its web presence now, the website first went online in November '98, with FOCS joining us online in August '99, The site at that time was a very primitive thing, as you'll see from the illustration from the Home Page from May '99. Why? I was learning to build websites as I went along! The reason the site looks very amateurish today is because I learnt HTML as I went along, but back in '98 it was quite respectable. Ju knew more about websites than I did at that point!

Chaletopia - a precursor

The club site wasn't the first site for Chalet fans; the most widely known early site was Chaletopia. It went online in April '96, but had sadly disappeared by early '97. Chaletopia was a true fan-based site of its time. It was essentially a Guestbook site, but it was by no means the only site online then. There were, and still are, a range of fan-based sites online, but I'll leave Charlotte and Kerri to talk more about these websites and other fan-related sites in a few minutes.

Visitor involvement

In the spirit of the Chalet School, I decided it would be an excellent plan to get synopses for all the Chalet books at least, and to invite visitors to the website to write them. Each synopsis is credited to the name or, in one instance, the pseudonym, of the author, as are the illustrations that were/are not from books in my possession. I also include the country in which the synopsis author was writing from. This shows how widespread Chalet readers are. In the first few years the synopses came in frequently and our virtual library filled up quite nicely.

Unfortunately, now that all the Chalet School and La Rochelle books have been done, along with a selection of non-Chalet School books, totalling 95 synopses, I will have to commission the remainder, which include three of thefFill-in titles, as well as Jean of Storms and The School by the River. If anyone here wants to contribute to the virtual library of synopses, please see me afterwards!

Worldwide appeal

The Internet means that awareness of both The New Chalet Club and FOCS is now truly worldwide. Both clubs have a wider membership than would ever have been hoped for in the pre-Internet days. I think this is a good thing because it links people together, doing away with isolation and replacing it with this community of fans. Prior to the Internet, people had to rely on clubs, who in turn relied on the printed word. You could live very close to another collector and not know it!

Book collecting of any kind in those days was a much more solitary occupation than it is today. The Internet means that a collector in a remote location has the same opportunity to buy books as someone literally down the road! National borders cease to mean anything in the Electronic Community, and we have the opportunity to see the spirit of the Chalet School Peace League come to life. If you have, or choose to have, access to the 'Net you have access to an entire lifestyle in which physical distance doesn't matter.

Helen Aveling


Charlotte Simon and Kerri Brennan: Hello. Who here is on the Girlsown mailing list?
And who regularly writes on the Chaletian Bulletin Board?
Anyone a member of the Delphi forums?
Are there any other online girls school story forums or mailing lists that anyone belongs to? (Kindred spirits?)
If you aren’t a member of any of these online communities, why not? Is it lack of access, time or just not knowing what is out there?
What would make you join?
What makes an online community work? Is it a few key people that contribute often? Heated debate? Structured discussions?

There are clearly a lot of people out there using the online resources. Let’s look at a couple of these in more detail.
Girlsown is a mailing list set up by Anita Graham in May 1996. Initially there were only a few members but this has now grown to several hundred although some of these may have mail delivery temporarily disabled if real life means that it would be hard to keep up with the volume of post. It is nominally a group that chats about not just school stories but all girls books, although discussions often veer off topic and everything from the best way to make toast to the plots of cult TV shows has been covered. It often has a high volume of posts - anything up to 100 a day when members are feeling particularly passionate (or don’t have enough real work to do). There are structured book discussions, most lasting a month, with official leaders as well as more general discussions. Although Girlsown doesn’t have official meetings of members, many people have met up with friends made online. Shirley Skinner spent over four months in Australia & New Zealand staying with hospitable GOers, most of whom she had never met before.

Liss set up the Chaletian site in 1999, followed by the CBB in 2002. We are very pleased that she is here and will tell you more about it herself. Welcome Liss.

Other messageboards include the New Atalanta livejournal which was set up quite recently. It is a “Community for the discussion of Girls Fiction” and was named for the paper edited by LT Meade, which, in turn, took its name from the female athlete in Greek myth. There is also an msn chatroom for the Chalet books with about 200 members so you can see that there is no shortage of places to discuss the books online.

Although all these sites are set up to discuss similar topics, the community is often quite different on each. Some people are members of more than one mailing list or messageboard but each seems to have its own character. The CBB appears to have a younger age profile than Girlsown, for example and the chatrooms and livejournal site often attract those who already use those facilities. Although clubs such as FOCS and the NCC first fostered the international community and do have members all over the world, the growth of email and easy access to the web have dramatically widened the scope of participation. As we heard from Liss, the CBB has members all over the world, as does Girlsown, and the other online forums. Being in the UK it is a relatively easy matter to meet up with fellow fans but it is not always so straightforward for those overseas, especially in remote areas. Having online friends who share their interests can make a real difference, especially as it is a rather niche interest (and one some are still embarrassed to admit to). Despite never having met, real friendships can be formed and members have a real sense of responsibility towards each other. After 9/11 the Girlsown list was bombarded with messages asking about the New York members and their families as, I’m sure, was the case for many similar sites.

Kerri Brennan came to the UK from Australia. Has anyone else been to stay with friends met online that they had not previously met? So far we have been mainly concentrating on mailing lists or messageboards. Most of the book collecting societies also have their own club websites. Helen has just shown us the new look NCC site – lets have a quick look at some of the others.

FOCS site
Abbey Chronicle
Malcolm Saville
Betsy-Tacy society
DFB homepage inc. Serendipity details
AF website
Enid Blyton
Collecting Books & Magazines
Monica Edwards
Noel Streatfeild

Most club websites tend to be more information than opinion based with details of the author’s life, the books they wrote and, in the case of the FOCS website, details of publishing history and dustjackets. Many societies have thriving journals and the website is more an online presence and place for fans to find out how to join, dates of upcoming evenings etc. rather than the main method of communication.

Who here has ever bought a book from abe? On ebay?

As I’m sure you will all agree, the growth of online used bookselling has made life much easier in some ways for collectors, however there are some disadvantages. Finding pristine Chalet hardbacks for 50p in a charity shop is now almost unknown as sellers have become much more aware of the huge market in the Girlsown genre. This has led to some very strange pricing – common Enid Blyton paperbacks with the rather ambitious price of £7.50 - or even more - and labelled very rare. For me though the advantages vastly outweigh this. Being able to search through the catalogues of thousands of second-hand shops online is marvellous and, however much I enjoy searching through rows of books in a musty-smelling shop, it is an incredibly convenient way to track down copies of books that you never knew you wanted until they were no longer available.

Ebay does seem to be a rule unto itself, depending, as it does, on the vagaries of bidders. You can sometimes pick up real bargains but I’m sure we’ve all seen fairly common books go for incredible prices when, the following week, another seller can’t give their copy away.

Being able to compare prices across a range of sellers has brought the price of some items down as well as up. Buyers can pick and choose although obviously, there are some books that don’t come up for sale very often. If anyone does see that first edition of The School at the Chalet, complete with dustwrapper for under £20, please remember to let me know…This has been a very quick skate through the Electronic Girls School Story community – really just an overview of what is available. Please tell us what we have missed out and more about your online experiences.

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